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Tuesday, April 21, 2009
A storm is coming!
I've been super busy with school lately, so I haven't really had time to post. I'll try to write something substantial in the near future (i.e. sometime between tomorrow and when the sun turns into a red giant). For now, I just thought I'd post this awesome Colbert clip about the ridiculous National Organization for Marriage commercial.
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Damn. I've got no sound on my computer.
ReplyDeleteCan you read lips?
ReplyDeleteNope. But my roommate just came back to town, so i might watch it on his laptop.
ReplyDeleteWell Yahweh said faggots are to be stoned (Leviticus 20:13).
ReplyDeleteIts somewhat ironic how it forbids one type of sexuality yet the rest of it is filled with so much porn that it has hollywood beat.
Abram told Phaoroah his wife was really his sister, David raped Bathsheba, Lot slept with his daughter, Solomon has entire songs on women's vagina's tasting like vine, etc etc
Now about faggots and the right to marriage, assuming any of you even think monogamy as an institution deserves respect, why should gays be allowed to marry?
The millions who have suffered, and are suffering as a result of the AIDS epidemic that this community played the largest role in incubating and launching through their pathological sexual behavior might tend to disagree.
For example, even if the following is a minority, what kind of mentality is going on in a community to bring about this sort of behavior?
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5939950/bug_chasers
you will recognize that this grows out of something tangible within the gay community. It doesn't come out of left field, totally unrelated to key values widespread in that community. You ask a young gay man what he enjoys doing the most, invariably, the most common answers will be, "I like to party and f---," and, what is more, you will find that for many, this is not a recreational activity, but is considered by them as a key part of their personality and identity. You have massive promiscuity, and this is openly embraced as a key virtue in this community. (Exceptions of more monogamous, or at least serial monogamous exist, and I have met some of them, but it's an exception that kind of prooves the rule)
This includes lots of anal sex, the sexual activity most likely to encourage HIV infection. Even with condom use at 100%, this is a situation guaranteed to promote HIV spread; condoms only work 95-99% at best, and condoms don't perform (no pun intended) as well in this use. So is hardcore drug use and hard living. Booze, coke, ecstasy, crystal meth, amyls, GHB, ketamine - sometimes several of these at the same time, and hedonistic sex, often with several different people, a week, often under the influence of these drugs. Gay men are the leading vector of HIV spread in America. It is an epidemiologists nightmare.
The rampant existence of drug-fueled hedonism in the gay community isn't exactly a secret.
Research funding into therapies for homosexuality is virtually non-existent since the APA, caving to pressure from gay activist groups, took homosexuality off the books of mental illnesses, 34 years ago. Without funding, breakthroughs don't happen. I'm pretty sure if we judged schizophrenia and depression treatment from its techniques of 34 years ago, we'd find it pretty primitive too.
With regards to those who say it's all biological, hence natural, hence not something religion should condemn, a few questions: How do they explain bi-sexuality? pederasty? bestiality? necrophilia? deviant fetishes? Are these all biologically based as well? If not, why the distinction between them and homosexuality? If they are biologically based, then would you still condemn them? How do they explain the fact that people's sexual tastes (even in terms of who they're willing/interested in copulating with gender wise) appears so malleable? whether it's an otherwise heterosexual prisoner getting his b**** or the plethora of young girls who've suddenly decided they're bisexual now that the L word is chic? How do they explain the widespread historic existence of pederasty in the older male (who may have been married to a woman and having a family already) to younger male tutorship relationship, such as amongst the ancient greeks, and in feudal Japan ("shudo"), along with host of other cultures. Aren't these clear examples of how cultural norms (and people's choices in those norms) very much are a major factor in one's sexuality?
Did you know that today pedophile activists are arguing for their "rights" in the same manner that the rest of the gay community is; that they are "born" that way? What's scary is that their advocacy is gaining ground.
The medical field accepts gender tranformation as a legitimate procedure. We don't see these hypocritical psychologists up in arms about the unethicality of tampering with what nature has given the person in that case. If it is legitimate to respect the desires of those who believe their bodies are inconsistent with their desires, why is it considered illegitimate to provide therapy to those who are concerned about desires that they feel are inconsistent with their bodies? I think its far less invasive amd medieval to give such a willing patient some psychotherapy or drug therapy than it is to hack off someone's testicles, slice open their penis, trim it and push and prod and mold it into a fake vagina, and give them hormone shots to grow breasts.
A truthful therapist would also mention, that those happy, well-adjusted people are greatly in the minority within the gay community, especially amongst those who have aged beyond the shiny happy party years and discovered that the gay subculture is largely a Dionysiac cult of youth, and has little use and respect for the aged.
http://www.narth.com/ (institute that specializes in treating the disease of homosexuality)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html (the Myth about animals and homosexaulity)
http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp (True science vs. the falsehood of the so-called "gay gene").
In a word, "sigh"
Shalmo,
ReplyDeleteI welcome all views, but please keep your comments respectful and constructive.
Do you really mean to compare homosexual relationships among consenting adults to pedophilia?
And where is your argument against gay marriage? Saying that you don't approve of the gay "party" lifestyle has no bearing on the issue of marriage among monogamous couples.
Also, please don't fabricate facts. There have been many documented instances of GLBT behavior in the animal kingdom, not that that has any bearing on what types of human sexuality should be permitted.
If you plan to respond, please try to keep your arguments logical and on point. I have no patience for bigoted rants.
I've noticed you NEVER respond to the totality of my posts.
ReplyDelete"Do you really mean to compare homosexual relationships among consenting adults to pedophilia? "
re-read what I said.
Today even pedophile activists are using the equally absurd "we are born this way" argument.
How do they explain bi-sexuality? pederasty? bestiality? necrophilia? deviant fetishes? Are these all biologically based as well? If not, why the distinction between them and homosexuality?
"Also, please don't fabricate facts. There have been many documented instances of GLBT behavior in the animal kingdom, not that that has any bearing on what types of human sexuality should be permitted."
NONSENSE!
http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html (the Myth about animals and homosexuality)
"If you plan to respond, please try to keep your arguments logical and on point. I have no patience for bigoted rants."
Take your own advice coz I no patience for bigoted rant :) heh!
And please re-read the entirety of my previous post before you put forth more arguments that I already addressed
About gay marriage, I have already given a good enough list of reasons I am opposed to that lifestyle. If you bothered reading what I wrote previously you would see why
Even schizophrenia is known to be biologically inherited, but that doesn't stop us from treating it.
ReplyDeleteFrom memory in a study done in Holland, the average fagot in committed marriages was found to have extra-marital affair with at least 7 people annually. Have you watched shows like the "L-Word" and "Queer As Folk", both targetted to a gay audience, because they very very clearly reflect the lifestyle of substance abuse, promiscuity and hedonism this community breeds amongst its members.
If we followed through and stoned homosexuals we wouldn't have this AIDS epidemic to begin with
Shalmo,
ReplyDeleteI don't respond to everything you write because your rants are so long!
If you would like me to respond to one or two of your arguments please present them clearly and succinctly in a respectful manner (i.e. don't use the word "faggot" or imply we should stone people [I hope that was a joke]).
Fine. I'll repeat the relevant stuff:
ReplyDeleteThe millions who have suffered, and are suffering as a result of the AIDS epidemic that this community played the largest role in incubating and launching through their pathological sexual behavior might tend to disagree.
For example, even if the following is a minority, what kind of mentality is going on in a community to bring about this sort of behavior?
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5939950/bug_chasers
you will recognize that this grows out of something tangible within the gay community. It doesn't come out of left field, totally unrelated to key values widespread in that community. You ask a young gay man what he enjoys doing the most, invariably, the most common answers will be, "I like to party and f---," and, what is more, you will find that for many, this is not a recreational activity, but is considered by them as a key part of their personality and identity. You have massive promiscuity, and this is openly embraced as a key virtue in this community. (Exceptions of more monogamous, or at least serial monogamous exist, and I have met some of them, but it's an exception that kind of prooves the rule)
This includes lots of anal sex, the sexual activity most likely to encourage HIV infection. Even with condom use at 100%, this is a situation guaranteed to promote HIV spread; condoms only work 95-99% at best, and condoms don't perform (no pun intended) as well in this use. So is hardcore drug use and hard living. Booze, coke, ecstasy, crystal meth, amyls, GHB, ketamine - sometimes several of these at the same time, and hedonistic sex, often with several different people, a week, often under the influence of these drugs. Gay men are the leading vector of HIV spread in America. It is an epidemiologists nightmare.
The rampant existence of drug-fueled hedonism in the gay community isn't exactly a secret.
Research funding into therapies for homosexuality is virtually non-existent since the APA, caving to pressure from gay activist groups, took homosexuality off the books of mental illnesses, 34 years ago. Without funding, breakthroughs don't happen. I'm pretty sure if we judged schizophrenia and depression treatment from its techniques of 34 years ago, we'd find it pretty primitive too.
With regards to those who say it's all biological, hence natural (people such as yourself), hence not something religion should condemn, a few questions: How do they explain bi-sexuality? pederasty? bestiality? necrophilia? deviant fetishes? Are these all biologically based as well? If not, why the distinction between them and homosexuality? If they are biologically based, then would you still condemn them? How do they explain the fact that people's sexual tastes (even in terms of who they're willing/interested in copulating with gender wise) appears so malleable? whether it's an otherwise heterosexual prisoner getting his b**** or the plethora of young girls who've suddenly decided they're bisexual now that the L word is chic? How do they explain the widespread historic existence of pederasty in the older male (who may have been married to a woman and having a family already) to younger male tutorship relationship, such as amongst the ancient greeks, and in feudal Japan ("shudo"), along with host of other cultures. Aren't these clear examples of how cultural norms (and people's choices in those norms) very much are a major factor in one's sexuality?
Even schizophrenia is known to be biologically inherited, but that doesn't stop us from treating it.
Did you know that today pedophile activists are arguing for their "rights" in the same manner that the rest of the gay community is; that they are "born" that way? At university I have read documents that show pedophilia advocacy, with the exact same argumentation that other homosexuals use. What's scary is that their advocacy is gaining ground. But I'm assuming you don't feel that just because pedophiles feels they are born with this sexuality, that they should be allowed to fuck children.
From memory in a study done in Holland, the average homosexual in committed marriages was found to have extra-marital affairs with at least 7 people annually, hence why we see AIDS spread so quickly amongst this community. Have you watched shows like the "L-Word" and "Queer As Folk", both targetted to a gay audience and written by homosexuals with first-hand experience of what the gay community is about. They very very clearly reflect the lifestyle of substance abuse, promiscuity and hedonism this community breeds amongst its members. And as humanists we all are responsible for putting a stop to it
If we followed through and stoned homosexuals we wouldn't have this AIDS epidemic to begin with, which this community is largely responsible for.
The medical field accepts gender tranformation as a legitimate procedure. We don't see these hypocritical psychologists up in arms about the unethicality of tampering with what nature has given the person in that case. If it is legitimate to respect the desires of those who believe their bodies are inconsistent with their desires, why is it considered illegitimate to provide therapy to those who are concerned about desires that they feel are inconsistent with their bodies? I think its far less invasive amd medieval to give such a willing patient some psychotherapy or drug therapy than it is to hack off someone's testicles, slice open their penis, trim it and push and prod and mold it into a fake vagina, and give them hormone shots to grow breasts.
A truthful therapist would also mention, that those happy, well-adjusted people are greatly in the minority within the gay communit, especially amongst those who have aged beyond the shiny happy party years and discovered that the gay subculture is largely a Dionysiac cult of youth, and has little use and respect for the aged.
And:
http://www.narth.com/ (institute that specializes in treating the disease of homosexuality)
http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html (the Myth about animals and homosexaulity)
http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp (True science vs. the falsehood of the so-called "gay gene").
Check those out before you repeat more nonsense on the so-called gay gene, homosexuality in the animal kingdom (and other similar myths propagated and foolishly believed only by gullible secularists), and ofcourse the first link which provides important resources for curing the disease of homosexuality.
Help is available and it is a terrible crime to not solve this problem due to post-modernist political correctness.
Shalmo,
ReplyDeleteDo you not know the meaning of "succinctly"? I still see no coherent arguments, just the rantings of a bigot.
non sequitur!
ReplyDeleterather than being such a lazy ass why can't you just read the whole thing and seriously THINK about the counter-arguments I am presenting before you throw around your next barrage of ad-hominems
calling me names doesn't undo my argument, it only strengthens it
I'm not your enemy and I don't know why you seem to think of me as such. Or do you only want people who agree with you posting on your blog? If you don't like hearing counter-arguments to your position then why bother with a blog at all?
Shalmo,
ReplyDelete"lazy ass...ad hominems" -> LOL, the irony.
I DID read the whole thing (the first time you posted it), but as I mentioned, I failed to find a coherent argument. Railing against the victims of a horrible disease, comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality without cause, and labeling an entire group as promiscuous and deviant does not count as logical discourse to me. You need good reasons based on reality if you want to prohibit a group of people from having equal rights.
I'll reiterate: If you want me to respond to a specific argument, please present one. Don't just repost the previous rant.
I don't mean to seem harsh, but I am impatient when it comes to homophobia, racism, and other such things. I'm glad to have a conversation with someone I don't agree with, as long as the discussion is civilized and based on logic, common sense, and reality.
So you didn't read the whole thing with precision as asked.
ReplyDeleteArgument#1: Sex, Drugs, and Promiscuity
The rampant existence of drug-fueled hedonism in the gay community isn't exactly a secret. And please don't use that homophobic card on me, it won't silence the criticism
You ask a young gay man what he enjoys doing the most, invariably, the most common answers will be, "I like to party and fuck," and, what is more, you will find that for many, this is not a recreational activity, but is considered by them as a key part of their personality and identity. You have massive promiscuity, and this is openly embraced as a key virtue in this community. And this IS NOT LABELING an entire group as you call it, its just presenting the hard cold truth. This includes lots of anal sex, the sexual activity most likely to encourage HIV infection.
Millions have suffered, and are suffering as a result of the AIDS epidemic that this community played the largest role in incubating and launching through their pathological sexual behavior. Don't tell me this doesn't mean anything for gays are the largest percentage of AIDS carriers.
And I am going to ask you this for a third time. What in the world is going on here: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5939950/bug_chasers
Don't tell me I am being homophobic, because stuff like this is exactly what is wrong with this community, and pretending to be unaware of this behaviour which dominates the gay community is a weakness on your part.
Heck its not even a secret. They are extremely open about the hardcore drug use and hard living. Booze, coke, ecstasy, crystal meth, amyls, GHB, ketamine - sometimes several of these at the same time, and hedonistic sex, often with several different people, a week, often under the influence of these drugs. Gay men are the leading vector of HIV spread in America. It is an epidemiologists nightmare. The stats from the gay world time and time again verify this. Go and open a magazine or a newspaper targetted for a gay audience, and see how sex, and more sex, is all this world is about.
As I said the gay community is Dionysiatic cult. A culture of obsession over youth and the body, no that dissimilar from Grecian pedastry. The problem here is that in a culture of rampant promiscuity and sex, the body is what is valued. But as times goes by you age, and as you age you realize you are not hooking up as much as before. So after 30/40 your life, and what little was good in it, is over. This loss of beauty, and the ability to hook with new partners is what wears down the Dionysian spirit and leads to depression, alcoholism and the hedonism to follow.
And this I repeat is NOT a secret, its something very very open and known in the gay community.
A truthful therapist would also mention, that those happy, well-adjusted people are greatly in the minority within the gay communit, especially amongst those who have aged beyond the shiny happy party years and discovered that the gay subculture is largely a Dionysiac cult of youth, and has little use and respect for the aged.
Argument#2 : They are "born" gay
ReplyDeleteThis argument, the most commonly used, by people such as yourself in favour of homosexuality is perhaps the worst post-modernist myth out there
If you sexuality is really natural, and thus biological and this irreversible, then answer this:
How do you explain bi-sexuality? pederasty? bestiality? necrophilia? deviant fetishes? Are these all biologically based as well? If not, why the distinction between them and homosexuality? If they are biologically based, then would you still condemn them? How do they explain the fact that people's sexual tastes (even in terms of who they're willing/interested in copulating with gender wise) appears so malleable? whether it's an otherwise heterosexual prisoner getting his b**** or the plethora of young girls who've suddenly decided they're bisexual now that the L word is chic? How do they explain the widespread historic existence of pederasty in the older male (who may have been married to a woman and having a family already) to younger male tutorship relationship, such as amongst the ancient greeks, and in feudal Japan ("shudo"), along with host of other cultures. Aren't these clear examples of how cultural norms (and people's choices in those norms) very much are a major factor in one's sexuality?
Do you see the all the problems caused when you try to justify this using biology?
And even if you could prove they are born this way, which btw NOT A SINGLE SCIENTIST HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO, so what?
Even schizophrenia is known to be biologically inherited, but that doesn't stop us from treating it.
Today pedophile activists are arguing for their "rights" in the same manner that the rest of the gay community is; that they are "born" that way? Is there a particular reason you don't feel pedophiles who also claim to be "born" this way should be given the rights to express their sexuality? If not, then why the special pleadings for gays & lesbians?
those happy, well-adjusted people are greatly in the minority within the gay communit, especially amongst those who have aged beyond the shiny happy party years and discovered that the gay subculture is largely a Dionysiac cult of youth, and has little use and respect for the aged.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you think married couples are any better you are sorely mistaken as the study from Holland, where gays can get married shows, the average married man in a committed relationship cheats on his spouse with a minimum of 7 partners on an annual basis
Argument # 3: CURING HOMOSEXUALITY
ReplyDeleteResearch funding into therapies for homosexuality is virtually non-existent since the APA, caving to pressure from gay activist groups, took homosexuality off the books of mental illnesses, 34 years ago. Without funding, breakthroughs don't happen. I'm pretty sure if we judged schizophrenia and depression treatment from its techniques of 34 years ago, we'd find it pretty primitive too.
And this is a terrible tragedy because essentially a group suffering from a grave disease (and worse members of this group who recognize that something is wrong with them) are not able to get medical attention they need. If people suffering from schizophrenia said they don't want treatment, since when does choice come into it, especially for those who willingly go into reparative therapy seeking a cure for their for sickness
And this is why I support people like NARTH who are actually doing something to help these people out. (http://www.narth.com/)
Right now half of Africa is going through death and decay because of the AIDS spread by these sick individuals (men who sleep with men, and then infect innocent women who are the primary caretakers of women in those societies to begin with). SO yes I very very much support an eradication to this social disease that has claimed so much human life. Next time before you blame the Pope for restricting condom use, be sure to balance it out by condemning the gay community for their sponsorship of all these STDs to begin with
Argument # 3: CURING HOMOSEXUALITY
ReplyDeleteResearch funding into therapies for homosexuality is virtually non-existent since the APA, caving to pressure from gay activist groups, took homosexuality off the books of mental illnesses, 34 years ago. Without funding, breakthroughs don't happen. I'm pretty sure if we judged schizophrenia and depression treatment from its techniques of 34 years ago, we'd find it pretty primitive too.
And this is a terrible tragedy because essentially a group suffering from a grave disease (and worse members of this group who recognize that something is wrong with them) are not able to get medical attention they need. If people suffering from schizophrenia said they don't want treatment, since when does choice come into it, especially for those who willingly go into reparative therapy seeking a cure for their for sickness
And this is why I support people like NARTH who are actually doing something to help these people out. (http://www.narth.com/)
Right now half of Africa is going through death and decay because of the AIDS spread by these sick individuals (men who sleep with men, and then infect innocent women who are the primary caretakers of women in those societies to begin with). SO yes I very very much support an eradication to this social disease that has claimed so much human life. Next time before you blame the Pope for restricting condom use, be sure to balance it out by condemning the gay community for their sponsorship of all these STDs to begin with
There you go, three concise and detailed arguments for you to think about
ReplyDeleteShalmo,
ReplyDeleteYou call that concise!? You just spewed the same nonsense you did before! I still see no logical arguments, just assertions that gay men are promiscuous (how is that relevant to the issue of marriage between monogamous couples?) and that homosexuality is a disease (and you say you are not homophobic! And I suppose the guy who says blacks are inferior is not racist!).
When you learn what a succinct and logical argument is, I'll still be here.
Shlomo, what's the deal with number one? Gays are promiscuous, AIDS-spreading, drugged-up lowlifes. Therefore they can't marry? Maybe they wouldn't be so promiscuous and wouldn't all suffer from AIDS.
ReplyDeleteSorry bud, I think "argument 1" is a very strong argument FOR gay marriage.
^^^No because as the study I cited shows, marriage makes no difference since the hedonistic, drug-fueled, promiscuous lifestyle doesn't end. According to that study done in Holland, where gay can and do get married, the average homosexual in a committed relationship cheats on his spouse with a minimum of 7 partners on an annual basis.
ReplyDeleteWhat good does marriage do?
1/6 of every black woman in the US has AIDS because of black men in the DL, who then come home infected and spread it to their wives, and others who spread it to other women they are cheating on their wives with. The same is true in Africa, where male homosexual practice is the primary cause of spread of HIV and other diseases, often enough by men who ARE MARRIED
There is a very good reason muslim countries have the lowest rates of STDs on this entire planet. Its because they follow effective laws, and religious norms governing sexual behavior.
A man who is afraid to be stoned for promiscuity and sodomy is gonna think twice before he goes around cheating on his wife.
Too bad here in the West practical models for resolving an obvious problem are being limited by the subjective morality of modernists.
my dear friend the "committed" gay couples are still promiscuous, but not as promiscuous as their uncommitted friends. 7 partners a year is a lot less than the crazy partying/fucking you assert "average" gays indulge in. And if their marriage was legally recognized, maybe they'd also take it more seriously and not screw around as much.
ReplyDeleteBut this is all speculation and beside the point. My real question was how could you use homosexuals' promiscuity as an argument AGAINST gay marriage?
What difference does a legal marriage make anyway? Gays get married, regardless of legal restrictions. Legal marriage only includes benefits like tax cuts, etc.
ReplyDeleteAnd still those marriages haven't stopped the gay community from continuing to be self-destructive, leading others down that same path.
"But this is all speculation and beside the point. My real question was how could you use homosexuals' promiscuity as an argument AGAINST gay marriage?"
Because as I previously stated marriage doesn't do squat. It doesn't end the life of promiscuity, drugs and hedonism this lifestyle produces. Perhaps you are unaware, but contrary to homo propaganda, those well adjusted, loving relationships, are greatly in the minority in the gay community.
Its the homosexual condition itself that is the problem, which is why funding is necessary to help find more effective cures for this disease. The APA, caving to pressure from gay activist groups, took homosexuality off the books of mental illnesses, 34 years ago. Without funding, breakthroughs don't happen.
If we restricted this community through threat of death, then we could reduce if not eradicate this social disease and stop it from spreading to others.
And why am I even having to debate this with a Jew. Certainly you know what the Torah and the midrash have to say about homosexuality, in particular the incident at Sodom and Gamorrah, where massive homosexuality was the very reason Yahweh wiped out an entire civilization
And even if you were right that marriage reduces promiscuity, drug use and hedonism in this community (which btw I don't believe), it still doesn't solve the problem if its only being carried out to a lesser extent.
ReplyDeleteHaving an average of 7 partners outside marriage, is enough to spread the disease and keep it vibrant amongst not just gays but all the women who get infected by husbands, boyfriends as well. And in places like Africa, its those women who 90% are all that little children have, who btw also get these STDs passed down on to them.
Its a sick cycle, and the only way to stop it is to stop it at its root.
Did you know in Sweden (a country that allows gay marriage) gay activists are working to reduce the age of consent from 14 to 12? And the arguments they are making are nearly verbatim what all other homosexual use. And who know in 20 years they may reduce it again to maybe something like 8 this time.
Do you see where this stuff is headed?
Or maybe, the APA stopped considering homosexuality and illness, because it isn't an illness.
ReplyDeleteAh huh!
ReplyDeleteWell then that AIDS epidemic in African countries won't have a cure. People keep insisting on condoms not realizing that condoms use isn't all that effective as previously discussed. The best cure is an end to promiscuity, and in this case a cure to the homosexual condition which facilitates the spread of all these STDs
And I blame post-modernist restrictions in the West for failing to come up with a solution to this problem.
All people like NARTH can offer is psychological help where as more developed treatments for other social diseases have far more developed therapies available for them, while people like NARTH are stuck in the stone-age because they lack funding for this problem, which as I have repeatedly stated has disastrous consequences overseas.
PS: Just did some reading and it seems even in Africa alone the lowest STD rates are in muslim countries, especially where more effective forms of sharia law are enforced. Thank God for it. What does it mean to you when muslim countries, seen here in the West as backward and corrupt, produce lowers rates of STDs and hedonistic populations? Pitiful.
Anyway I don't wish to continue discussing this, because I am now just being forced to rehash the same points again and again, which isn't getting us anywhere.
re your last point: AMEN!!
ReplyDelete